A future significance in chronologically cataloging a product produced by Ludwig wasn't foreseen. Date Stamp Date stamps are simultaneously the best and worst means to properly date a Ludwig drum from the '60s use of the date stamp was discontinued ca. Apparently I need to brush up on my knowledge of current Ludwig stuff. This table should provide a starting point for the authentication of vintage Ludwig drums made from 1963-1984. Cook shared with me the raw data which he used when he was developing his dating guide.
In addition, the Keystone badge was reintroduced on certain models in the early '80s. This happened with hardware and badges and these companies were competing in an ever aggressive market and had to do what needed to be done to remain profitable. The goal is to provide better tools to the vintage drum enthusiast interested in evaluating the age and authenticity of their drums. The Subject says it all. The Vintage Drum Forum can be found by. By 1963, the gull wing spurs were introduced with two variations including either first generation Ludwig script bracket or second generation Ludwig script bracket.
If one presents the information without the proper context, as is done when one simply copies a table without its accompanying explanatory material, then it is easy for the reader to misinterpret the information. Time has shown that the result is not a particularly good representation of Ludwig's use of serial numbers during this period. Here's a photo from their current line up of Acrolites, featuring that flavor badge. As collectors and historians we have to settle for a date range or a specific year at best. It appears that the same date code was put on the label for a large number of drums, making me think that it was not really a datecode at all.
From 1961 until 1968 the interiors were painted white. Even if a serial number badge does exist on a drum anomalies do occur and that is because the badges did not have an inventory control system. Because the approach is serial number based, it only applies to Gretsch drums with serial numbers starting in about 1962, Ludwig main line drums with serial numbers starting in late 1963. Here is the dating guide for 60's and 70's Ludwig Drums. It is heavily concentrated on factors that were included on all cataloged trap kits, and wood drums of this era.
Also a single bus, seven-minute ride straight down Sperling to the Sperling-Burnaby Lake Skytrain Station. Quick Company Guide: Ludwig Drum Company - Information Below Slingerland Drums - Click Here Rogers Drums - A few people are trying to create a guide, but the best way is the physical characteristics Leedy - Physical characteristics. Ludwig themselves kept no records of the serial numbers they were using. Cook's chart, there were only 60,000 serial numbers used in 1971 and 20,000 used in 1972. I truly appreciate the efforts of Mr. I collected information for several years before I published a Gretsch dating guide last month.
Date stamps for drums produced in 1960-1963 were strictly red ink, while date stamps from 1964-1969 were red or black. . Since we can't list it all here, our Vintage Drum Guide houses all the research and history on Ludwig Drums and that is the place to do more research! How To Date A Ludwig Reverb News How To Date A Ludwig. Unfortunately, none of those is particularly accurate as they are based on very small amounts of data. Special thanks to collector Kevin Oppendike for sharing his knowledge of Ludwig Standards. By then, the shell mold changed from using a mix of mahogany and poplar to using maple and poplar in the same style 3-ply mold. It serves as the basis for much of what we know about Ludwig drums.
From here you should be able to gather information to determine what Ludwig Drums you have and what year they were made. The Benchmark® Platinum commercial condensing boiler self-corrects these problems delivering maximum efficiency through patented technology and tools. It was a smoother contoured looking bracket. Now, get out there and grab a piece of history. In most cases the best way to estimate the date of a drum is its physical characteristics. From the inception of date-stamping in 1960 through 1963, Ludwig solely used red ink. I continue to gather information so that future editions of my guide will continue to offer new insight into how Ludwig made their drums.
It was continuously used in to the 70's on most catalogued outfits. Just follow the links below. Indicating factors include not limited to : serial numbers, date stamps, shell mold, shell hardware, finishes, and badges. By 1968, Ludwig introduced the round muffler pad installed directly adjacent to the badge on a drum. There are two open Houses planned on Thursday, February 8th, from 10 a.
In addition, individual owners may have trimmed the badges themselves, so consulting a serial number will provide a better gauge on the drum. Pointy badges - those with a pointed edge - are typically associated with models from the earlier '70s. Other special features like badges, shell plys and the interior finish all help in giving you a date range of your drums manufacture. We jump from 834000 as the highest number in 1969 to 835000 as the lowest number in 1971. For anyone who takes this as criticism of Mr.